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Whoops, wrong equinox! Obviously my mind is on the upcoming equinox
Michael
I have just read Dick’s essay (originally a talk), “If You Find This World Bad, You Should See Some of the Others”. Blew me away, and also reminded me of Andy Collins essay a few years back on Morphians (on his website somewhere). Fascinating stuff about the idea that the world is actually being continually altered, but we don’t normally realise this because we don’t remember. Dick related some of his own experiences where he thinks he may have remembered different versions of the world and himself. His story, “Flow my Tears, the Policeman Said” features a great deal. Simon, this maybe relevent to you?
Potentially relevent to questing. I’m especially thinking of the manner in which artifacts appear. Maybe this is us watching reality change, catching it in the act. Perhaps history is also changing to accommodate the things that come into being.
If Simon is agreeable I’ll see if I can post the text here.
Michael
I’m already committed to other activities that weekend. It is the vernal equinox after all.
Michael
Hello Josie,
Josie wrote:Who says you’re uneducated??Well, I do if we’re talking about Jung and psychology in general. I am better educated in other areas.
Josie wrote:You may want to read The Power Of Myth and also Hero With A Thousand Faces, both by Campbell. They’re an absolute must for those interested in Joseph Campbell.At the moment buying new books is a no-no until I’ve made good progress through the piles of unread and partially read books that I have. I got ‘Pathways to Bliss’ as a Christmas present, following a recommendation from a couple of my spiritual mentors. Thanks for the recommendation though.
I wrote:It seems to me that even for those who still hold to the old myths, our culture means that we take a literal approach to them which actually robs them of their power.Take for example a myth very dear to me, namely the Christian myth. Some of the things written about in the gospels may really have happened, and though history is important at the end of the day it is – even if sacred history – still just history: in the past. Myth is something that is always present or at least able to break into our time and transform it. Our culture is steeped in rationalism however, and the tendency is to see the Christ myth as something that either happened in the past or didn’t, and there is a very emotive debate about its historicity. In this environment then even if you choose to believe it really happened, its power is largly limited to an encouragement to believe in God, in Christ and live a good and moral life.
It is possible for the myth to be more than this, to be a real doorway to the spiritual realm. Entering into the myth isn’t something anyone can do for you though, you have to do it yourself. Anyone who is seriously walking their path, whatever it is, is creating their own myth. I’m thinking in part of those tales of the saints; they trod their path and their stories became myths in themselves. I’m also thinking of what was said of the old Gnostics: the heresiologists complained that everyone was writing their own gospel. One day I may write the Gospel According to Michael.
Quote:Quote:I might need to expand on that sometimePlease do! I think that would be awesome.
Crumbs, I’ll need to give it some more thought.
Quote:Quote:but I can say that what people discover in their various psychic quests does have that whiff of personal myth-making.Can you elaborate on this, too?
Again, I probably need to give it more thought, but even a psychic quest for an artifact is about much more than the artifact itself. The quest (a very mythic theme in itself) places the questor into a different relationship with the world, maybe even with the spiritual world. And the quest is frequently transformatory, perhaps changing the questors view of reality, even changing the questors life forever.
I’ve had a quick skim of the Archetypal Psychology page. Think I need to give it a slower skim though.
Cheers,
Michael
I’ve not read the Mike Arons article yet, nor have I read any Jung, but I’m going to throw in my own uneducated observation anyway.
Jospeph Campbell (who I’ve only just started reading) spoke about following your bliss. Bliss is the euphoric welling-up within oneself of that creative energy whose origin lies beyond time and space – it is transcendent. If you follow whatever it is that brings you bliss, you can become ‘transparent to the transcendent’. Sounds to me a little like what you are talking about re vocation and the finding of meaning.
Campbell talks about this in the context of the problem of our modern society that Simon touched upon. The traditional myths that in the past provided the route for people to become transparent to the transcendent have been ‘debunked’ for most. It seems to me that even for those who still hold to the old myths, our culture means that we take a literal approach to them which actually robs them of their power. Campbell also said that our society is constantly changing so fast that new myths don’t have time to develop or take hold. So we all need to find our own way, write our own myth.
I’ve thought for a little while that psychic questing has a mythic function, and the Meonia saga is almost like a foundational myth (which is perhaps why I personally find Meonia so fascinating). I might need to expand on that sometime, but I can say that what people discover in their various psychic quests does have that whiff of personal myth-making.
One of the things that psychic questing does do is unite the ‘feeling’, intuitive consciousness with the rational, analytic consciousness. Having said that it has often appeared that one person (the psychic) does the intuitive part while another (the researcher) does the rational part. Ideally we would unite the two in ourselves.
Enough of my rambling.
Michael
I don’t understand why some people do these things. Hopefully the council will sort out the mess, but well done for taking the time to do your bit.
Iteresting that the most recent info ignores (as far as I could tell) Dr Sean McGrail’s (McGrail – son of Grail? – what an excellent name) 1980s comparison of the boats to similar Egyptian vessels. Though the change in dating between when AC wrote his piece in Earthquest and the present – i.e. the recent datings now have the boats pre-date the Armana period by several centuries – are too early for the Meonia ‘Heritage’ story. Not that that rules out the Heritage stuff as any evidence that Egyptians had long-established trading links with Britain would at least make it possible that some Atenists made for these shores.
Hope your financial situation perks up soon Malc.
I’m curious, how much were Wilkinson asking for the full-size swords?
Michael
Thanks Simon, interesting. It might be worth getting an alchemist’s take on the three hares. I’ll get the opportunity to meet one at the end of November, I’ll have to try and remember to ask.
I’ll have to browse those forums myself at some point. I keep meaning to delve deeper into the subject of Alchemy. I love alchemical illustrations.
Michael
I think I know why you’re asking this. I like that “Guide My Sword” method. All you need to do is bid on that Graham Phillips mini-Excalibur! It’s only 9 inches, but size doesn’t matter.
If your bid fails then dowsing over a map using a pendulum has gotten results for some people. You can divide your map into segments and dowse each, then dowse any positive sections further. You can dowse on site as well, using whatever your preferred methods, pendulum, rods, entrails, etc.
I think dowsing is good because it’s quite easy for anyone to do it. Trying to receive a vision is a lot harder. I’ve not dowsed for objects but in the past I’ve found pendulum dowsing remarkably good.
If you know of a particular personality connected to the object you might also want to consider asking them to guide you, as with the Guide My Sword method. Not necessarily a full blown raising-the-dead-at-crossroads, I believe you can just call upon them. Or upon whatever otherworldly beings you feel may be helpful.
Good luck. Michael
Ah, apparently it’s some sculptor leaving them for whoever finds them to do as they please:
[url:3mcpq00e]http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/7024964.stm[/url]
Seem like nice pieces.
Michael
Hello Vyxen,
Interesting dream, but I don’t know Sussex at all I’m afraid.
The first thing I thought of was because of having recently read Yuri’s book on Gwyn – his name means or is related to the word for paradise. Don’t know if there is anything similar to be found in Sussex.
A quick spot of Googling reveals that there is a Paradise Hill near Eastbourne, which once had a mill on top: Found that on this page, search on the page for ‘paradise’ -
[url:1uj0n1st]http://www.sussexias.co.uk/mills_historic_features.htm[/url]Other possible things to maybe look for are deer parks, or places with deer or hart in the name? The bit about how the hill ‘occludes the birds’ is rather mysterious. Is it trying to say the hill blocks something that the birds represent?
Have you asked your occult teacher? Maybe it means something to her?
Michael
Hello Dave,
Hope you can still remember most of what you discovered in 2003, or at least remember which sources to go to so you can recreate your research. It sounded fascinating. Trails go cold, but you never know when a chance discovery or meeting or something else out of the blue will make the trail go..er…hot.
I’m going to Questcon myself, maybe see you there.
Happy hunting.
Michael
I’ve had a look at your blog there, and if I’m correct then your complete flower of life is a greatly enlarged version of the figure usually called the flower of life. Am I correct, and would you like to expand on your ideas?
You might find this interesting: just yesterday morning (15/07/) I woke up at about 4.30am and while I was lying there this figure suddenly came to me:
The Pythagorean Senary derived from your basic three interlinked circles – the intersections provide the points for the senary. I had been looking at the senary the day before, but until that point hadn’t thought of deriving it thus.Later on I realised that expanding the figure to a Seed of Life could give me the complete Pythagorean Tetractys:
Again, the intersections provide the points of the tetractys (though three of the outermost intersections aren’t needed, but hey!)Michael
Hello there SacredCo! As I’m online I’ve taken it on myself to be your welcoming committee, unless someone else manages to pip me to it while I type.
I’ve had a look at the web address you’ve given so I guess you must be Barb. I see you’re a professional psychic; there’s a section on the forums somewhere (Miscellaneous Psychic Topics I think) where you can shamelessly offer your services if you want to. I have to admit that I’ve been quite sceptical about professionals in the past – just prejudiced really. However, following some very positive reports from my wife about an angel medium (not sure how else to describe her) I decided to have a reading from her just this past weekend at a psychic jamboree. I must say that I was pretty impressed with the quality of information coming through. Certainly stuff to get me thinking.
Anyway, feel free to resurrect any older topics on the forum if you think you have something to contribute about them. In my opinion nothing is ever closed, and something I had forgotten about long ago can suddenly become important again.
Very best regards,
Michael
Andrew Collins has picked up on this and posted his own thoughts:
[url:1cabig0n]http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/news/Rotherwas.htm[/url]He discusses a Scottish serpent mound, and the similarities to the Ohio Serpent Mound.
Michael
