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Hey Yuri, congrats on achieving Magus status! You beat Simon to it.

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which one becomes reality?

Whose reality?

Surely its our point of view that determines the reality we perceive (out of all the potential realities) – believing is seeing and we each live in our own reality, where, for example God either exists, or does not. Explaining everything away with science is one way of ‘collapsing the wave function’. Open-mindedness and ambiguity are two sides of the same coin – they make the world a more interesting place.

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such reality-jacks would probably have to be charlatans

Is a healer who successfully heals with placebos a charlatan? Or is she simply opening up the possibility of healing in the mind of the patient?

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I can’t comment on apports, but would suggest that if one is being ‘led’ to a particular place, maybe at a particular time, the ‘guiding hand’ will use whatever material is available to do this. We may feel like we are following a logical process in our research, but unconscious influences and synchronicities are at work (the trickster), bypassing the logical mind and perhaps leading to factual errors – but achieving the desired outcome nontheless. The process doesn’t really matter – there are many divination techniques out there.

I wouldn’t consider myself psychic, but I’ve had some really freaky synchronicity trips! No artefacts, mind you. Any psychic volunteers out there? There’s this little place I know…

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For all cretan labyrinth fans out there:
[url:dj21va0e]http://tinyurl.com/ndj3e[/url]

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Is it possible that the name reads St Joannes, as in Joannes Baptista (John the Baptist)?

Maybe next time take binoculars, or a camera held at arm’s length!

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Hi Vyxen,

Very interesting – I hadn’t heard of that one.

For websites with more details on this line, see:
http://www.gcircle.co.uk/geomancy/belinus/belinus.html
http://members.fortunecity.com/william4/Belinus.htm
http://www.whale.to/b/belinus_line.html

Miller and Broadbent of ‘The Sun and the Serpent’ fame also wrote a book ‘The Dance of The Dragon’ on the Apollo/Athena line from Skellig Michael to Armageddon.

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Thanks guys. It’s true, the process of expressing the questions seems to have helped me to answer them. Perhaps I should use the same technique ‘on site’.

I’ve already done a load of work on this project and part of me just wants to get it over and done with (I turned up yet another significant fact only a few weeks ago). I also look forward to sitting back and watching the fireworks!

‘Fraid the site is not in Surrey. It’s on private land, but easy to access (!). There is archaeology, but nothing overtly ‘sacred’ has been found so far (no folklore either) – that’s partly why I’m interested in exploring the psychic angle. Don’t want to get into a guessing game, so I’ll say no more for now.

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Thanks, Yuri. While my opening questions were of a general philosophical nature, I have a specific practical reason for asking.

My researches, through a long chain of synchronicity, point spectacularly and unmistakeably (though controversially) to the significance of a particular site as a highly potent, but forgotten sacred centre. My predicament is really – ‘so what next?’. What am I supposed to do with this information?

I am interested in ‘recharging’ the site and in seeking corroboration of my findings through more direct psychic means, although I have little experience in this area.

I suppose I could go and ‘knock on the door’ so to speak, and ask something like ‘why have you led me here?’, and take things from there.

I believe that no ‘journey to the otherworld’ is over until you return and use whatever treasures you gained on your trip for the benefit of this world. To this end, I’m preparing a manuscript (hopefully) for publication, as well as a website/DVD, but I can’t help thinking there could be another chapter if I take things to the next level before going public.

Can anyone out there advise me on this?

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Hi Simon,

I feel that more ‘general interest’ topics would be of value in terms of helping the forums to reach critical mass – specific research questions (I have quite a few of these too) being naturally only of interest to minorities of members (but the bigger and wider the membership base, the more likely such questions will generate answers).

I’m not above using a little subtle mischief to get things moving if necessary (thanks for taking the bait Yuri, but where are those lurkers?).

I’ll be sure to contribute to the ‘how to’ forum. I have a lot to learn, so there’ll be plenty of questions, but for what it’s worth, I’m happy to offer people the benefit of my own experience.

I’m an experienced quester of sorts – as far as I am aware, my psychic talent doesn’t amount to much more than being an open-minded (willing) victim of an outrageous sustained sequence of symbolic synchronicities, leading to some controversial findings, a few loose ends, and some seemingly forgotten sites (more on that later).

Having completed ‘phase one’ of the quest some time ago, before career and family commitments intervened, I now feel there could be value in taking things to the next level, so to speak, to see if my findings can be corroborated by other, more deliberately psychic means (working with the genius loci, dowsing etc.).

Guess this last bit should have gone in the ‘introductions’ forum, but I’m not good with categories!

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OK Simon, it arrived and I’ve just read a chunk, so here goes…

I’d say yes, The Art of Conversation with the Genius Loci by Barry Patterson is directly relevant to psychic questing. While this book has a pagan ecospiritual approach, you don’t have to be a shaman to benefit from its words of wisdom, although you might become one! As books on the ‘how to’ of psychic questing in general are few, this is a valuable sourcebook in my opinion.

Within the first few paragraphs of the introduction, the author suggests that the art of ‘finding one’s place in the natural world’ is about being yourself, being open and having patience. That is, not necessarily having the sense of being on some kind of quest, but still having the sense of being connected with the source, so that knowledge, power or inspiration might be granted.

We lose the magic of the moment when our minds step in to seek meanings according to our preconceptions ‘as if the whole world was a cipher and we had to crack the code’. Much psychic questing is about having an agenda, an active, rather than passive role, but there’s a lesson right there for all psychic questers I feel.

Barry has written a very personal book with an eco-spiritual message that I fully endorse, and as he’s an environmental educator in the West Midlands, as was I once, I know where he’s coming from.

Simon, as we’re in the same county, I’ll let you borrow it when I’m done reading.

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One more link for you, Michael. This seems to pull it all together nicely:
[url:1j6nx68c]http://www.aboutulverston.co.uk/celts/magatamas.htm[/url].

It’s fascinating to read the stuff about the Buddhist teaching on Dependent Relationship and the mystical interpretation of the Holy Trinity – seems to echo some of the ideas I mooted earlier.

By the way, a triangle formed by three interlacing circles is a Christian symbol of the Trinity (I suspected as much, but just read it in one of my reference books).

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Not sure where it leads though! The vesica piscis can be seen as the intersection of the circles of heaven and earth, which is one reason why images of Jesus are often seen within this shape.

The vesica piscis also represents the female genitalia.

You have to add another circle to get the triangular intersection of 3 circles, but I’m not sure what this (3rd circle) might represent.

Perhaps the shapes of the hares ears can be seen as the genitalia of the triple goddess! Apparently, in Christian tradition the white Hare, when depicted at the Virgin Mary’s feet, represents triumph over lust or the flesh. This gives a clue to its pagan connotations, I’m sure.

The hare is a common witch’s familiar. Were you aware of the folk tale in which a hunted, wounded hare disappears into the house of an old woman, who turns out to have the same wound?
[url:dlekc5k0]http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/eng/efft/efft51.htm[/url]

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Hi Michael,

The most relevant stuff I can find is here: [url:2cqqeu47]http://mathworld.wolfram.com/FlowerofLife.html[/url]
in particular, the links to the Reuleaux Triangle, Seed of Life and Venn diagram.

There’s a mass of confusing material on sacred geometry out there and I don’t wish to send you on a wild goose chase, but for an intro, you might try these:
[url:2cqqeu47]http://www.unitone.org/naturesword/sacred_geometry/general_introduction/[/url]
[url:2cqqeu47]http://www.geomancygroup.org/sacred_geo.html[/url]
[url:2cqqeu47]http://www.geomancy.org/sacred_geometry/sacgeo-1.html[/url]

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As for expanding on sacred geometry and sacred architecture – dont tempt me! Without launching into a treatise, suffice it to say that the use of sacred geometry in sacred architecture is a means of expressing pure/universal truth through the archetypal architectural building blocks of the universe.

What strikes me about these images of the three hares, and others like them ([url:piaxcg5t]http://www.threehares.net/puzzles.html[/url]), is that they express the idea that there is ‘more than meets the eye’ – there are alternative (seemingly mutually exclusive?) interpretations of what you see (like science and magic) -

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a ‘gestalt’ phenomenon, where there are alternative views of the same image. The two interpretations of the image … compete in our mind. We can see one interpretation and then the other, but it is hard to see both at once.

Their use could also possibly indicate the existence, within the same location, of hidden symbolic messages, which contradict orthodox interpretations.

They also remind me of the way different animals are sometimes combined in celtic knotwork designs. These convey for me a sense of the interrelatedness or oneness of all things (there is a unity in the world beyond the reach of mutually exclusive worldviews).

This brings me to the triquetra, and back to triangular/circular geometry:

(from [url:piaxcg5t]http://home.rochester.rr.com/gocek/images/christn/[/url]

(from [url:piaxcg5t]http://www.aon-celtic.com/[/url]

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Could the three hares motif contain a reference to Gothic architecture, the triangular geometry upon which it is based, or its attendant symbolism? Compare

with

(from [url:3qdppdnp]http://www.newyorkcarver.com/geometry/equilarch.htm[/url])

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Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Just bought it online, so I’ll post a review in due course!

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