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    I’ve been experiencing events that I would call psychic for nearly twenty years or more. I’ ve never been on a psy quest. Just lately I seem to be uncovering something. Had a dream about a certain buildingin the city. In the dream it was a church. This week I googled the area and discovered there was a baptist church on that street. No that uncommon. There are four cartouches on this wall of the building, which is a new building btw. I didn’t know anything about cartouches or even what they were called. But they stand out as odd. I googled them,’ knowing’ there would be some magical symbology attached to them. More than I guessed. A cartouche is a protection, divinity and eternity symbol from egypt that protects divine or royal names.

    This links with baptism, which is connected to taking on a christian or saint name.

    So we have something to do with names going and protection. Just opposite these symbols is a department store that used to be called Hammonds. Hammonds means ‘home protector.’ or ‘high protection.’

    Which relates to the cartouche. Hammonds closed down and was taken over by House of Fraser before the cartouches were put up, so they are not directly related…not in that way. Tee hee.

    So we have coincidences linking up.

    On the same street (south street) we have the site of the old Tivoli theatre where comedian Arthur Lucan died. Lucan means “joins” an apt name for this string of coincidences. :) He is said to haunt that old theatre and I worked in there a few years ago. While in the toilets, alone, I heard a paper towel rustling. A few days later I discovered that Lucan’s real name was Towle. Ok, that’s a bit daft. But then so was he. :)

    Is this psychic questing or mild schizophrenia? :)

    #2541

    Hi Albie,

    I worked in Hull just opposite Hammonds/House of Fraser for over a year. My ex-girlfriend’s surname was Towle. My Godmother lived in Lucan (outside Dublin).

    If you’re mad then there’s two of us in it :wink:

    By the way I always liked the Museum in Hull – lots of Roman remains and the earliest boats ever discovered in Europe.

    Cheers,

    Simon

    #2542

    Weird. Or a reminder that reality naturally forms networks.

    I recall, sometime ago, on The James Whale Tv Show that a group of psychics claimed that there was a psychic shield around Hull. They didn’t know why. A few years later another psychic group from Scotland claimed they had uncovered that the Humber was the location of King Arthur’s death place. Maybe they meant Arthur Lucan?:) Or maybe Lucan’s death was an echo?

    A few other things, just to throw in: I had a dream as a child that Robin Hood was connected to the area of Hull and Beverley. Years later it transpires that Beverley minster was a known sanctuary for criminals and they couldn’t be touched within its bounds. Years more later I discovered that in one of the stories Little John claims to be from Holderness, which was a small village just outside of Hull and is now part of it, and that there were records of a criminalliving in the area, hunting deer, at the time called John Little. probably a common name though (always end with a reality check :))

    #2543

    Also, I noticed that there has been some grafitti on these cartouches. I wonder if some local taggers haven’t accidentally placed a spell on themselves. :D

    I’m going to get photos, in case I can make something of it.

    It keeps me out of trouble.

    #2544

    Apropos of not much really but fitting in with the Weird Hull vibe, I had a bit of a Research Quest that ultimately didn’t trigger any psychic corroboration. I began to suspect that the legendary 4th Templar Head had been taken across the Humber and hidden. Then I came across the story of Owd Nance at Burton Agnes Hall (http://www.ghosts.org.uk/ghost/3112/skulls/screaming-skulls/the-ghost-of-owd-,nance-and-her-skull/yorkshire.html) and wondered if this was in fact a Templar Head whose camoflague had been too good and whose new identity spawned a legend which eclipsed any memory of what it had really been…

    #2545

    >>legendary 4th Templar Head

    Do what? :D

    Who he? I googled it but nowt came up but severed heads.

    Have you seen my magic stone on the other thread?

    http://psychicquesting.com/ftopict-212-.html

    I found it on the north bank of the humber, in a copse. The other side of it looks like a face (don’t they always?) But anyway, some time after I found it a sculpture was put up in the marina of Hull that looked just like it. It is a large head. I should get more pics of it. Also, the new submarium is the same shape as the stone. And the stone contains the image of a shark. There’s more. But I need more time to get it down. Oooh, I’m, questing. When do I go up against the black alchemist? :twisted:

    I should add that I dreamt about the stone before I found it and drew images in it. It is full of images. Some that seemed to stem from my childhood. But then vagueness is so suggestive.

    #2546

    This from the [url=Http://www.sacred-texts.com/sro/hkt/hkt12.htm]History of the Knights Templar[/url]:

    “Brother John de Donyngton, of the order of the Minorites, the seventy-sixth witness examined, being sworn, deposed that some years back an old veteran of the Temple (whose name he could not recollect) told him that the order possessed four chief idols in England, one at London in the sacristy of the Temple; another at the preceptory of Bistelesham; a third at Bruere in Lincolnshire; and the fourth in some place beyond the Humber, (the name of which he had forgotten;) that Brother William de la More, the Master of the Temple, introduced the melancholy idolatry of the Templars into England, and brought with him into the country a great roll, whereon were inscribed in large characters the wicked practices and observances of the order. The said old veteran also told the deponent that many of the Templars carried idols about with them in boxes…”

    #2547

    I see. But there’s no reference saying it’s a head for sure? There are many heads like this. There’s another you’ll probably know about, in a pub in Hull with the same “don’t move the skull or the ghosts will get you” myth attached.

    Is there anymore reason why you suspect this skull?

    Skulls have been turning up in my head recently. I write horror fiction for a lark and am always fishing around in the ether for images. I found one: a skull sat in a tree. A few days after thinking of it, I saw some lad who had their football stuck in a tree. The ball was grey and blotchy like a skull. :) There’s a skull in my stone, if you twist it.

    Didn’t Bran the Blessed’s head survive death?

    #2548

    IS this something to do with it?

    http://www.templarhistory.com/sidon.html

    “It is well known that the order of the Templars was monastic in nature and therefore forbidden to have involvement with women as shown in the Templar Rule of Order. The legend of the “Skull of Sidon” claims that one Templar knight had a relationship with a woman who died. He dug up the woman’s corpse and consummated their relationship resulting in a most grisly birth nine months later.

    “A great lady of Maraclea was loved by a Templar, A Lord of Sidon; but she died in her youth, and on the night of her burial, this wicked lover crept to the grave, dug up her body and violated it. Then a voice from the void bade him return in nine months time for he would find a son. He obeyed the injunction and at the appointed time he opened the grave again and found a head on the leg bones of the skeleton (skull and crossbones). The same voice bade him ‘guard it well, for it would be the giver of all good things’, and so he carried it away with him. It became his protecting genius, and he was able to defeat his enemies by merely showing them the magic head. In due course, it passed to the possession of the order.””

    #2549

    Come to think of it, my dream of Robin Hood involved him being beheaded. But then the dream was mad because he was beheaded by a car crushing his head. He had this horrible stump for a head afterwards, then he was buried in a pod in the side of a hill to be woken later.

    Did they have cars and gestating pods back then?:)

    In the dream, I was shown an image of the black mill in Beverley, which was the same shape as Robin’s neck stump.

    http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/259143

    The mill isn’t that old though. maybe two hundred years.

    #2550

    Hi Albie,

    Heads abound! With the Templar heads, I incline towards the theory that if they genuininely had heads they probably thought of them as “relics of power” – arguably like John the Baptist’s head in the Gospels.

    The Robin Hood link is interesting as Robin Hood, at least in part, is surely a representation of the Green Man archetype. This connects both the theme of wounded king/wounded land (as found in some version of the Grail story and many Celtic myths before that) as well as the sleeping king/waiting to awaken and heal the land (as in the stories of King Arthur) with severed head themes (as in the story of Gawain and the Green Knight).

    What does it all add up to?

    Cheers,

    Simon

    #2551

    I’m almost scared to tell you. :D

    This is the statue I was telling you about on the Hull Marina. The artist named it Neptune.

    http://files.myopera.com/Albie/albums/680356/nef.jpg

    Compare it to the other side of the stone I found.

    http://files.myopera.com/Albie/albums/680356/sten1.jpg

    There’s a bearded man on the other side of the stone.

    http://files.myopera.com/Albie/albums/680356/sten3.jpg

    See it? In orange and red at the bottom right?

    Here’s a close up.

    http://files.myopera.com/Albie/albums/680356/beard.jpg

    #2552

    If you twist that last image you get another bearded man.

    http://files.myopera.com/Albie/albums/680356/deta.jpg

    Which also turns up, madly, in a smear of paint on a saucer I was using as a palette.

    http://files.myopera.com/Albie/albums/680356/dshdeta.jpg

    Notice the black faced man next to him? There’s a pefect eye there. Remember this was nothing more than a random smear of paint.

    Here’s the whole dish. It is full of images.

    http://files.myopera.com/Albie/albums/680356/dsh.jpg

    Check out the green splodge. There’s a remarkable image there.

    http://files.myopera.com/Albie/albums/680356/draghrse.jpg

    It looks like a skeletal horse head or a dragon. This is an image that crops up all the time with me.

    #2553

    This is another side of the stone.

    http://files.myopera.com/Albie/albums/680356/sten2.jpg

    Which looks like a knife to me. It struck me that it looks like the knife is reflecting a man stood in a doorway.

    Which reminded me a painting I had made before I found the stone. I have superimposed the knife onto the pic to show where it matches.

    http://files.myopera.com/Albie/albums/680356/sten.jpg

    The side of the door is the red beard of the man on the other side of the stone. The darkness seems to be a figure stood next to him. As on the dish. The man in the painting; his red hand is the same shape as a blank side of the stone.

    The stone, in my eyes, is the shape of a shoe, if you rest it on the base shaped like a knife. Walking on knives? If you turn it onto it’s other side it looks like this.

    http://files.myopera.com/Albie/albums/680356/stenn.jpg

    A bit blurred but you get the idea. Now compare it to The Deep in Hull, on the same shore a few miles down from where I found the stone.

    http://www.pinks-wetwipes.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/deep.jpg

    Built AFTER I found the stone. As soon as I saw the plans for the bulding I knew it was the stone. When the stone is that way up there is a shark image shown. The Deep has sharks.

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    A few other things, just to throw in: I had a dream as a child that Robin Hood was connected to the area of Hull and Beverley. Years later it transpires that Beverley minster was a known sanctuary for criminals and they couldn’t be touched within its bounds. Years more later I discovered that in one of the stories Little John claims to be from Holderness, which was a small village just outside of Hull and is now part of it, and that there were records of a criminalliving in the area, hunting deer, at the time called John Little. probably a common name though (always end with a reality check )

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