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I think you made a very observant and intelligent post there, Biddulph.
I’ve said before that not everything about Meonia is clear and healthy anyway.
Most of the ‘Heritage’ came from Andy and Graham’s ‘Joanna Sessions’, and the story sold to them by this spirit…
…Ahkenaten, Gwevaraugh, Arthur, Knights Templar, Bloody Mary (not Mary Queen of Scots) and the Gunpowder Plotters…
… was a real heady mix of all aspects of occult & esoteric historical eras. (How much is still written and still misunderstood and not known; – just on the Templars for instance. A spirit can bring a topic up, bend it how they want it, throw in an apport (to proove that all they say is true)… job done).
‘Joanna’ I dont believe, from what’s written in the books, was a particularly truthful or honest spirit. Often she was impatient; at times would say things that made no sense (Andy says so himself in the Seventh Sword). She said nothing about there being seven swords… when other swords popped up in the future it was a complete surprise to Graham and Andy.
When Graham and co pushed for more knowledge it resulted in the distructive ‘Eye of Fire’ events… portraying John Newton Langley as the face of evil, a victorian Black Alchemist out to do harm to all… My own studies (I lived in Bristol for a while, and so had he after Wolverhampton so I investigated his haunts)… this figurehead of occult evil, was a teacher at Bristol Uni, (a free-thinking establishment, ahead of its time because it educated women, as equally as men)… Langley and his wife, to make ends meet, took in a couple of students as lodgers (so he wasnt of great wealth) when his wife died he retired to his sons home (a vicar) and died in humble christian surroundings… Hardly the figurehead of evil as portrayed by the Meonia material… I find Bloody Mary (who had over 300 protestants burnt) and the Gunpowder Plotters (early religious terrorists) more alarming than I do John Newton Langley the school teacher.
Sure Ahkenaten, Arthur and the Templars/Rosicrucians are significant and fascinating things…. but they dont specifically belong to ‘Meonia’ nor do they qualify the ‘Joanna entity’ as a reliable historian of truthfulness.
I’ve learnt to keep a sceptical eye about it all.
Is Alan Beard still out there? Be interesting to hear what he thinks of all this – if anything. There were quite a few people involved in the Green Stone/Eye of Fire quests and it would be interesting to hear their stories.
I echo Yuri’s comments for the most part, as we have had this conversation more than once!
I strongly believe that Meonia was actually much “darker” than it was put across in much of the Seventh Sword and was very motivated by a desire to “take control” of Britain’s Spiritual destiny for their own ends.
A lot more was going on in and around Biddulph Grange than has come to light. For a start i suggest anyone interested has a look at some other sights of interest close by!
I know from experience that Psychic information is often very colored by the life view and emotional state of the person who picks it up.
Yuri, you raise a very good point about John Newton Langley – I think they called him John Laing in the book. The archetypal figure in the long black coat and hat seen as the ‘evil one’ was, I believe, the human representative of the black stone that was found with the green one – its guardian. If, as the book says, the Victorian fire phoenix group (if they existed) messed up so badly with their disasterous ritual, no wonder Langley wanted the stone back off them. And if he has the archetypal scary appearance – well, you don’t get a poodle to guard something you regard as precious – you get a rottweiller! Possibly he has been much misunderstood. If he is a guardian figure, then to keep fighting him is to invite trouble! I get so tired off all this childish polarity – the good and evil crap.
Look at the people who are meant to have been involved with this stone – Akhenaten – totalitarian iconoclast who banned most of the wonderful Egyptian gods and introduced the monster of monotheism – and his army’s forays into Nubia were not to hand out sweets.
The Iron age ‘celts’. Nice peace loving bunch – I think not.
Bernard of Clairveux – look what he started.
The Templars – ugh
Gunpowder plotters, the al-qaida of their day, wanted to kill loads of people in the name of an oppressive religion – one that saw us all born in sin and one that had women as second class citizens and had had a history of hideously torturing and burning heretics, jews, witches and free thinkers. I could go on with this list but I can’t be bothered.
think those at Biddulph Grange were involved in British Isralite Movement – really really yuk! Their literature is disturbing and would be banned today. I haven’t time to check this properly, so apologies to you and them if I am wrong. Can someone check this?
: Oh well thats that then!
I did have a long and ranting post about this written but then by router crashed.
I’m taking that as a sign to say that what goes around comes around.
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